tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post5989937303430227004..comments2024-03-13T08:16:23.560-07:00Comments on Indigenous Boats: The Unusual Beothuk CanoeBob Holtzmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-35501024609069746412021-12-27T01:59:42.061-08:002021-12-27T01:59:42.061-08:00I think the raised sides would be rounded to allow...I think the raised sides would be rounded to allow fishing nets to slide over them .. instead of having a sharp point which would snag the net.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05851254496013200699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-8562657730749243072017-12-20T14:27:10.484-08:002017-12-20T14:27:10.484-08:00white pine tree,very common at cartwright's ti...white pine tree,very common at cartwright's time in nl Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-12774640347731175472010-02-23T17:22:55.505-08:002010-02-23T17:22:55.505-08:00Edwin,
Thanks for this link. Faulker seems to do n...Edwin,<br />Thanks for this link. Faulker seems to do nice work on coracles and curraughs. When he steps outside of his native British-Isles tradition, however, it's a different story.<br />That "Beothuk" canoe looks pretty unlikely. He seems to be building it over a light lashed framework, as in a coracle: I can't tell if he plans to cover it with "skin" (i.e., canvas), or with bark, but in any case, the structure and the construction method are nothing like on a North American bark canoe, which starts with the bark "envelope" and then has the sheathing planks laid inside, which are in turn held in place by bent ribs. About the only think Beothuk-like that I see is the rise of the gunwales amidships.Bob Holtzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-83536180108778112872010-02-23T04:34:46.701-08:002010-02-23T04:34:46.701-08:00Peter Faulkner of Herefordshire, England, was comm...Peter Faulkner of Herefordshire, England, was commisioned to build a Beothuk canoe. Scroll down his gallery.<br /><br />http://www.coraclesandcurrachs.com/gallery.htmlEdwin Deadyhttp://dark-age-boats.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-37124841019148452212010-01-03T07:09:36.267-08:002010-01-03T07:09:36.267-08:00Anonymous: Regarding the Thames wherry, I'm re...Anonymous: Regarding the Thames wherry, I'm relying on this quotation from Adney & Chapelle:<br />"In 1612 he [i.e., Capt. Richard Whitbourne] wrote that the Beothuk canoes were shaped 'like the wherries of the River Thames,' apparently referring to the humped sheer of both; in the wherry the sheer swept up sharply to the height of the tholes, in profile, and flared outward, in cross section."<br />Here are a few images that show this:<br />1. http://www.nmmc.co.uk/index.php?page=Collections&type=&id=190&choiceid=276<br />2. http://www.rowinghistory.net/Equipment.htm<br />I have not referred to the original of Whitbourne's description, so Adney/Chapelle's use of the word "shaped" might possibly be in error, and perhaps "made", "built", or "constructed" would be more accurate, as you suggest. If you have access to this source, I would appreciate a more complete quotation than what appears in Adney/Chapelle.Bob Holtzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-27259792505430182512010-01-03T06:46:39.323-08:002010-01-03T06:46:39.323-08:00By the way, readers, Michael Schacht of Schact Mar...By the way, readers, Michael Schacht of Schact Marine (see comment above) maintains an interesting and often amusing blog (see the post on the Golden Sea Turkey Award) on boat design issues, often addressing modern designs with indigenous roots, e.g., catamarans, proas, etc. See http://schachtmarine.com/Bob Holtzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-24336281677277994882010-01-03T06:46:28.697-08:002010-01-03T06:46:28.697-08:00Interesting. Just from reading this and looking at...Interesting. Just from reading this and looking at the pictures. There appears to be a longitudinal "support" of the two humped parts (First Pic).<br />The canoe's gunwales were joined at the center at the apex of the humps. (Model by Shawandithit and the discussion about the broken gunwales).<br />The comment about the wherries refers only to the interior "wicker work", the frame. Not to any similarities in design just the use of "sticks" to construct it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-89537339353043618522010-01-03T06:20:33.531-08:002010-01-03T06:20:33.531-08:00Schact Marine: The "palm tree" look is m...Schact Marine: The "palm tree" look is my fault -- an unfortunate cropping decision on the picture. What you're seeing there is just the lowest branches of what is clearly meant to depict a conifer, probably a pine tree.Bob Holtzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-37599102080523038912010-01-02T20:51:09.475-08:002010-01-02T20:51:09.475-08:00What a fascinating article! It is a beautiful cano...What a fascinating article! It is a beautiful canoe, can't decide if I like it better with the "broken back" or not. I seriously wonder what Lt. Cartwright was smoking when he made that sketch. "Palm trees"?Schacht Marinehttp://schachtmarine.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-25846917228087397602010-01-02T17:32:50.077-08:002010-01-02T17:32:50.077-08:00Thanks Dave. I fantasize about projects like this,...Thanks Dave. I fantasize about projects like this, but don't hold your breath...Bob Holtzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-65278949524830742802010-01-02T17:22:24.139-08:002010-01-02T17:22:24.139-08:00Bob, Great piece. What a cool canoe. When you bu...Bob, Great piece. What a cool canoe. When you build the reproduction, let me know so I can go for a paddle.<br />Happy New Year!Davidhttp://www.canoemaine.comnoreply@blogger.com