tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post4381632167571212683..comments2024-03-13T08:16:23.560-07:00Comments on Indigenous Boats: Dugouts 8000 Years, 7000 Miles ApartBob Holtzmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-48703650084670099352016-02-25T17:08:48.524-08:002016-02-25T17:08:48.524-08:00I listened to the sound track of the video. The na...I listened to the sound track of the video. The name of these boats is haapio. That name comes from haapa, which is the name of the tree that the boat was made of (aspen). They used also term haaparuuhi (aspen punt).<br /><br />The soundtrack did not mention that the stones would have been hot. It said that the stones were used to improve the shape where it was not perfect after the heating and spreading process. They said that the wood is at its softest when the tar inside boils.<br /><br />They mentioned another alternative method of spreading the hull. The boat could be sunk in warm water (a warm bay). First steps in spreading the boat could be taken after 24 hours. The whole process would take several days with this method.<br /><br />They said that in addition to fishing the boat was used for making hay. They also mentioned hunting (in the wilderness) as a traditional use case. The boat was light, so it was easy to carry it from one small stream to another. They said that a skilled hunter could even make a boat (in the wilderness) for himself if needed.<br /><br />Thanks for the wonderful blog,<br />JuhoJuho Laatuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15072614531174046945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-27995872149273560642012-03-02T14:58:34.922-08:002012-03-02T14:58:34.922-08:00I take the point Bob as trenails into frames throu...I take the point Bob as trenails into frames through planks are going to be much more secure than trying to use them to fasten plank to plank. Thinking about it, until they deteriorate, stitches do provide a positiv hold. Interestingly the thwarts on the half-size ferriby boat reconstruction do seem to be held on by pegs.<br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/objects/o3jMHkrlTPiQCNd3TYy8EAEdwin Deadyhttp://dark-age-boats.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-28359013453707867532012-03-01T05:33:20.942-08:002012-03-01T05:33:20.942-08:00Edwin - I agree that the trunnel is so much easier...Edwin - I agree that the trunnel is so much easier and quicker to use than the mortise-and-tenon fastening method used by the Bronze Age Greeks, that one would expect it to appear earlier in the record. However, the trunnel seems to imply frame-first construction, with relatively heavy frames, and this didn't occur until relatively late. The method through the Bronze Age was still shell-first construction, with frames added later for stiffening but not as primary structure.Bob Holtzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05878339327766256094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6466695305125791022.post-16400635920665156132012-03-01T00:24:27.525-08:002012-03-01T00:24:27.525-08:00Interesting that the Finnish logboat builders tapp...Interesting that the Finnish logboat builders tapped the sides to deduce thickness. I have always wondered about the boring of holes and the insertion of wooden pegs in order to decide when the correct thickness was reached. <br /><br />While this was done very early, trenails using the same process are not accepted as coming into use until the Iron Age. Given the carpentry skills displayed even in the Mesolithic one has to wonder about this position.Edwin Deadyhttp://dark-age-boats.co.uknoreply@blogger.com